Showing posts with label Joe Wilson. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Joe Wilson. Show all posts

Wednesday, September 09, 2009

Video: Obama Heckled by Congressman During Speech

In response to Obama saying that "the reforms I'm proposing would not apply to those here illegally", Republican congressman Joe Wilson of South Carolina shouted "You lie!".



After being smacked about by Repub Dem Whip Clyburn (among others), Wilson issued the standard apology.

Oh, the drama they have down there in South Carolina! Is it something in the water??

Clyburn said the episode was as disgraceful -- if not more -- as Gov. Mark Sanford's revelation that he traveled to Argentina to conduct an extramarital affair when state officials believed he was on vacation in the nearby Appalachian Mountains.

"I thought he [the governor] had embarrassed us as much as we could be embarrassed. But to have a congressman use the floor of the House of Representatives in a joint session to insult the president the way Joe Wilson did is as embarrassing as anything anyone could think of," House Majority Whip James E.Clyburn, D-S.C., said. "Our state can do without this."

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Quite the discussion going on behind the scenes at Wiki after Wilson's page was repeatedly edited after he made the remark. Further unofficial editing of his bio has now been "disabled due to vandalism".
 

Thursday, July 19, 2007

Plame's Lawsuit Dismissed

According to a federal judge, Bush administration officials had the right to leak her name:

U.S. District Judge John D. Bates dismissed the case on jurisdictional grounds and said he would not express an opinion on the constitutional arguments. Bates dismissed the case against all defendants: Cheney, White House political adviser Karl Rove, former White House aide I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby and former Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage.

Plame's attorneys had said the lawsuit would be an uphill battle. Public officials are normally immune from such lawsuits filed in connection with their jobs.

While Bates did not address the constitutional questions, he seemed to side with administration officials who said they were acting within their job duties. Plame had argued that what they did was illegal and outside the scope of their government jobs.

"The alleged means by which defendants chose to rebut Mr. Wilson's comments and attack his credibility may have been highly unsavory, " Bates wrote. "But there can be no serious dispute that the act of rebutting public criticism, such as that levied by Mr. Wilson against the Bush administration's handling of prewar foreign intelligence, by speaking with members of the press is within the scope of defendants' duties as high-level Executive Branch officials."

"Unsavory" isn't the word for it.

No word yet on whether Wilson and Plame will appeal this decision.

Update: Melanie Sloan, lawyer for Plame and Wilson, stated on Hardball that she intends to appeal.

Update: Novak Justifies Outing Plame and Sources

He also says in his book that if given the chance, he’d print her name again. “I broke no law and endangered no intelligence operation,” Novak writes. This morning, he added he felt “disappointed in the journalism profession” for its reaction to his printing Plame Wilson’s name. “I thought we stuck together in things like this. I guess that wasn’t the case.”

Wednesday, July 04, 2007

Video: Libby's Commutation - The Snow Job

Do you ever ask yourself, Tony, just when you'll finally be sick and tired of all of the lying you do on this administration's behalf?

Via Hardball:



Q Was the President scared that if Scooter Libby went to jail that he might then talk about some secrets in the White House that would damage the President?

MR. SNOW: No, he thought it was an improper punishment. He thought it was an excessive punishment and, therefore, the proper way to do this was to go ahead and leave intact this -- again, the President's getting pounded on the right because he didn't do a full pardon. The idea is -- but the point of this is that you do not engage in these acts for symbolic or political reasons. You don't do it to make other people happy and say, boy, you showed it to so-and-so. The point here is to do what is consistent with the dictates of justice.

Q So politics did not play into this decision at all?

MR. SNOW: That is correct.

Sure, Tony.

Q And also, let me ask you this. The President and other White House press secretaries would not touch this question of Joe Wilson during the height of the investigation. I'm going to ask you now, since the President is now basically saying this is over and he's done what he's done -- Joe Wilson asked for an apology for the American people because of the situation. Is the White House now willing to give the American people --

MR. SNOW: I'm not going to get into --

Q Why not?

MR. SNOW: Because --

Q Why not? It's over now. You didn't want to talk about it then. Let's talk about it now. Do you think the American people are owed something because of the breach?

MR. SNOW: Number one, there is still considerable controversy about the facts of the case, including Joe Wilson's veracity. Number two, there is also --

Q What's in question about his veracity? Detail that, please.

MR. SNOW: There is also -- just, very quickly, you take a look at the Senate reports, his characterization of who sent him over and what he told people when he was in Niger is at direct odds with what he attempted to tell the American public.

Q That has nothing to do with leaking the name of --

MR. SNOW: I'm just --

Q She's making a good point.

MR. SNOW: I'm answering her question, which she raised --

Q But she's making a good point.

Q You're arguing a different case.

MR. SNOW: No, I'm arguing --

Q The apology that the American people may want -- some may want --

MR. SNOW: I understand.

Q -- has to do with the fact that the White House allowed for a breach. And doesn't Libby owe the President an apology?

MR. SNOW: Again, I'm not -- this is -- number one, I believe the investigation found that the White House was not the source of the breach. Number two, the President has said that it is --

Q But it's part of the Bush administration.

MR. SNOW: -- the President has said it is inappropriate to have such breaches, and has apologized for them. So beyond that --

Q When did he apologize?

MR. SNOW: I think he said to the American people -- gave an apology, but --

Q Tony, one point that is not in dispute is that Karl Rove was involved in the leak, in some way he was involved. He talked to at least two reporters who ended up publishing this information. In 2004, the President said -- he didn't talk about convictions or anything -- he said he would fire anyone in this White House who was involved in the leak. We now know Karl Rove was involved; he did not fire him.

MR. SNOW: There are two things to note. We have also said that we do not -- we are not going to make comments in detail until the legal process is over. And it is not; there is still an appeal through --

Q You just put out a two-page statement. He commented --

Q Wait a minute, he just put out this statement, and it's it's over.

Q He commented -- how could you not --

Q Yes, he's commented now, so that's a big -- we can shoot holes in that statement.

MR. SNOW: No, on follow-on issues like this that still may have bearing and an issue that may return to trial, I'm not going to comment on it.

Q How can you stand there with a straight face and say that this is not a political act? What he did was inherently political.

MR. SNOW: It was political in the sense that, as President, he has the authority to do this, but on the other hand --

Q Yes, he chose to do it for this person.

MR. SNOW: On the other hand, if you're doing the weathervane thing, you probably, depending on which constituency you wanted to make happy, you would have done something differently. I am telling you that this President approaches these very carefully as a matter of principle. And the key considerations were, let's figure out what we think is appropriate -- what he thinks is appropriate, in terms of punishment, and let's also do it in a way that does not do violence, but, in fact, shows respect for a system of justice -- not going in and overthrowing the hard work and the verdict of a duly constituted jury. That, to me, demonstrates just the opposite of political consideration. This is an attempt to try to figure out a principled way of dealing with what he thought was a thorny issue.

A "thorny" political issue, Tony.

And if Bush has "principles", I'd sure like to see them. What a farce.
 

Tuesday, July 03, 2007

Robert Novak: Still Pushing the "no underlying crime" Meme

Novak in today's Chicago Sun- Times:

The unique aspect of the Libby conviction was that there was no underlying crime whose prosecution he is accused of obstructing. Fitzgerald determined that no federal statute was broken when then-Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage revealed that Valerie Plame Wilson, the wife of Bush critic Joseph Wilson, worked for the CIA. But Fitzgerald prosecuted Libby for allegedly not telling the truth in the course of the investigation.

Well, that's a handy little Bushco apologist talking point, but here's the reality beyond that statement:

Since a federal grand jury indicted Libby in October 2005, numerous media figures have stated that the nature of the charges against him prove that special counsel Patrick J. Fitzgerald's investigation of the CIA leak case found that no underlying crime had been committed. But this assertion ignores Fitzgerald's explanation that Libby's obstructions prevented him -- and the grand jury -- from determining whether the alleged leak violated federal law.

Libby's lying obstructed justice. That's what people like Novak (as Jon Stewart calls him - the douchebag of liberty) don't seem to care about. Why should they? It's not their lives that were ruined and since they're not covert agents they don't have to worry about being outed by this criminal administration - possibly having their lives placed in danger. Covert CIA agents are "fair game", after all.

No. The only thing that matters to these apologists is that one of their own was caught and convicted and in their minds, that's simply beyond the pale. Nothing but a full pardon will do.

Here's where the disconnect between the rule of law and reality lies: "...conviction was seen by conservatives as part of the bitter assault on the Bush administration, targeting Cheney in particular."

Libby's conviction should be seen by any normal-thinking person as the punishment one gets for breaking the law because that's exactly what he did. It's the White House that has played politics with this case since day one - not the judicial system or those who wanted justice for Plame's outing. So if conservatives aren't happy today that their president didn't pardon Libby, too damn bad.

One of the prime examples of that cranky apologist mind set appears in today's Wall Street Journal. Just look at this stunning piece of revisionist history:

President Bush's commutation late yesterday afternoon of the prison sentence of I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby will at least spare his former aide from 2 1/2 years in prison. But by failing to issue a full pardon, Mr. Bush is evading responsibility for the role his Administration played in letting the Plame affair build into fiasco and, ultimately, this personal tragedy.

Mr. Libby will have to pay a fine of $250,000 and serve two years probation. This reflects the leniency that was previously recommended by the federal probation office but was rejected by Judge Reggie Walton in his vindictive sentence.

These columns have had cause to defend the Bush Presidency from what we've seen as often meritless or exaggerated partisan attacks, notably over national security and the Iraq war. This, however, will stand as a dark moment in this Administration's history. Joe Wilson's original, false accusation about pre-war intelligence metastasized into the issue of who "outed" his wife, Valerie Plame, as an intelligence officer. As the event unfolded, it fell to Mr. Libby to defend the Administration against Mr. Wilson's original charge, with little public assistance or support from the likes of Condoleezza Rice, Colin Powell or Stephen Hadley.

In no small part because of these profiles in non-courage, it was Mr. Libby who found himself caught up in prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald's hunt for the Plame leaker, which he and his masters at Justice knew from Day One to be State Department official Richard Armitage. As Mr. Fitzgerald's obsessive exercise ground forward, Mr. Libby got caught in a perjury net that we continue to believe trapped an innocent man who lost track of what he said, when he said it, and to whom.

Libby as the victim - as if he had absolutely no responsibility to tell the truth. It just doesn't get any more disgustingly nauseating than that.

Libby is not innocent. He lied and obstructed justice. Even Bush defended the jury's verdict today:

Q Mr. President, are you willing to rule out that you will eventually pardon Scooter Libby?

THE PRESIDENT: First of all, I had to make a very difficult decision. I weighed this decision carefully. I thought that the jury verdict should stand. I felt the punishment was severe, so I made a decision that would commute his sentence, but leave in place a serious fine and probation. As to the future, I rule nothing in or nothing out.

Q Mr. President, federal sentencing guidelines call for jail time in these kinds of cases of perjury and obstruction of justice. Why do you feel otherwise, and are you worried that this decision sends a signal that you won't go to jail if you lie to the FBI?

THE PRESIDENT: I took this decision very seriously on Mr. Libby. I considered his background, his service to the country, as well as the jury verdict. I felt like the jury verdict ought to stand, and I felt like some of the punishments that the judge determined were adequate should stand. But I felt like the 30-month sentencing was severe; made a judgment, a considered judgment that I believe is the right decision to make in this case, and I stand by it.

What is there left to say about people like that WSJ editorialist and Robert Novak who are so desperate to believe in their own fairy tales about this case that they cannot admit the truth? Or maybe that fact is exactly it: Libby couldn't tell the truth and neither can they. In Libby then, they have found a kindred spirit - a kindred lying spirit.

It's telling that the WSJ defended Bush's illegal war in Iraq yet decided to blow a gasket just because Libby wasn't pardoned. What more do you need to know about its editorial board than that?
 

Video: Joe Wilson Speaks to Keith Olbermann About Libby's Pardon


Wilson calls the administration "corrupt to the core".

You can read Patrick Fitzgerald's statement here.

And here's John Dean's analysis of some of the legal questions:


 

Tuesday, March 06, 2007

Libby: Guilty

Via the WaPo:

A federal jury today convicted I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby of lying about his role in the leak of an undercover CIA officer's identity, finding the vice president's former chief of staff guilty of two counts of perjury, one count of making false statements and one count of obstruction of justice, while acquitting him of single count of lying to the FBI.

Under federal sentencing guidlines, Libby faces a probable prison term of 1 1/2 to three years when he is sentenced by U.S. District Judge Reggie B. Walton June 5.

As to why it took the jury such a long time to reach their verdicts, one juror who spoke to the press outside the courtroom (on CNN) explained that they thoroughly dissected all of the testimony carefully for each charge to ensure that they did their jobs properly. (paraphrasing)

Libby's lawyers want a new trial but a) what's the point since b) Bush will probably just pardon Libby anyway.

It's about time someone related to this leak was found guilty of something.

Joe Wilson will be on the Larry King Live show this evening.

Here's a Joe Wilson flashback:



Update: Media Matters launches a preemptive strike against media myths and falsehoods that are sure to crop up once again in the discussion of the Libby case.

Update: Think Progress has the video of Fitzgerald speaking to the press following the verdicts.