Take this exchange:
Amen (13+ / 0-)
seems to me that this idea of not placing all the blame on the officer sounds alot like the attitude back in the 70's of women who were raped or beaten that perhaps they were to blame
by Bluerall on Sat Jul 25, 2009 at 08:34:05 AM MDT
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that's asinine (0+ / 0-)
The comparison doesn't even compute.
by catnip on Sat Jul 25, 2009 at 11:03:36 AM MDT
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* [new] no you are assine (0+ / 0-)
the safety of people in their own homes and black men especially in their own homes should be inviolate.
gates should have been able to say anything he damn well pleased in his own home at any decibel level that did not disturb neighbors who, by definition, cannot be disturbed by noise at high noon.
gates has a documented upper respiratory infection which prevented him from making undue noise.
no black man in america is safe because of attitudes like yours.
and if you think i am calling you a racist, go ahead.
racist is as racist does.
i am not backing down on this one. not. one. inch.
by fernan47 on Sat Jul 25, 2009 at 11:09:09 AM MDT
get off your pulpit (0+ / 0-)
Comparing what happened to Gates to what happens to rape victims is asinine. Period.
no black man in america is safe because of attitudes like yours.
Pathetic. Absolutely fucking pathetic.
by catnip on Sat Jul 25, 2009 at 11:14:46 AM MDT
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* you are pathetic (1+ / 0-)
and apparently structurally a racist.
as a women of color.
as a women aware of sexual victimization to the max.
you are the asshole in this scenario.
what makes you think what you think of my pulpit of the least importance to anyone, anywhere?
by fernan47 on Sat Jul 25, 2009 at 11:21:08 AM MDT
Oh, I'm used to being called a racist. You couldn't criticize Obama during his campaign at sites like Daily Kos without expecting that someone would throw that at you. But let's get serious here - if people want to hold up Gates as the poster boy for racial discrimination they have to look at his behaviour and how it contributed to the situation. Thus, the comparison to what happens to rape victims who aren't believed definitely is asinine and it's an insult to those rape victims.
Tale a look at this quote and tell me that Gates doesn't need a reality check and that his victimization allows him to be blameless:
My driver is a large black man. But from afar you and I would not have seen he was black. He has black hair and was dressed in a two-piece black suit, and I was dressed in a navy blue blazer with gray trousers and, you know, my shoes. And I love that the 911 report said that two big black men were trying to break in with backpacks on. Now that is the worst racial profiling I’ve ever heard of in my life. (Laughs.) I’m not exactly a big black man. I thought that was hilarious when I found that out, which was yesterday.
It looked like someone’s footprint was there. So it’s possible that the door had been jimmied, that someone had tried to get in while I was in China. But for whatever reason, the lock was damaged. My driver hit the door with his shoulder and the door popped open.
The bottom line - based on the facts - is that everyone overreacted here: Gates, the police officer and Obama. And if people really want to have a discussion about racial discrimination in America, I can think of so many other examples that could suffice as a jumping-off point. Placing Gates up on some pedestal as an example is hardly the best place to start. And if you want some real insight into village behaviour, look no further than the torches and pitchforks being carried at some so-called "progressive" sites against people like me who believe that facts, not emotions, should be driving this discussion. After all, it was the emotions of both men involved - Gates and Crowley - that escalated this story in the first place.
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